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"PatBateman" (PatBateman) 01/03/2017 at 16:16 • Filed to: Tesla

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I TOTALLY thought Musk would hit his 80k-90k target. Totally.

Not really.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 16:22

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they got close at least...but we all saw them falling short

PatBateman > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 01/03/2017 at 16:24

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It reminds me of a former employer I had seven years ago that kept putting completely unrealistic expectations on us and demanded that we meet them. When we pointed out that they were unrealistic, they scoffed.

I just wish that Elon would release REASONABLE expectations some time or another and then meet/beat them.

For Sweden > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 16:25

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Maybe he should threaten to move production to ol’ Mexico

wiffleballtony > For Sweden 01/03/2017 at 16:26

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Isn’t Old Mexico also California?

PatBateman > For Sweden 01/03/2017 at 16:27

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What Wiffle said. Also, Texas is Ol’ Mexico (and parts of Colorado).

TheHondaBro > wiffleballtony 01/03/2017 at 16:28

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Old Mexico is New Mexico.

TheHondaBro > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 16:28

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*reaches for cattle prod*

PatBateman > TheHondaBro 01/03/2017 at 16:29

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Is it for me, or for Elon? That answer dictates my response.

interstate366, now In The Industry > TheHondaBro 01/03/2017 at 16:30

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There’s a NEW Mexico?

TheHondaBro > interstate366, now In The Industry 01/03/2017 at 16:32

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Yep. New Mexico is old Mexico.

TheHondaBro > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 16:32

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Yes.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > interstate366, now In The Industry 01/03/2017 at 16:32

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It’s full of old people though.

PatBateman > TheHondaBro 01/03/2017 at 16:33

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I’ll take one for the team if Musk takes one in his side.

EL_ULY > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 16:40

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EL_ULY > For Sweden 01/03/2017 at 16:41

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Spain?

For Sweden > EL_ULY 01/03/2017 at 16:43

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Austria actually

PatBateman > EL_ULY 01/03/2017 at 16:44

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Tekamul > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 16:45

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But the Model 3 will be right on time. Definitely a Bolt killer.

PatBateman > Tekamul 01/03/2017 at 16:48

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TOTALLY. ON. TIME.

EL_ULY > For Sweden 01/03/2017 at 16:49

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TheTurbochargedSquirrel > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 16:52

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But promising big things gets you investor interest!

PatBateman > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 01/03/2017 at 16:54

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There’s meat under that fluff. He doesn’t need to add the fluff. Why add the fluff?! Just serve the meat. If it means your stock trades for less, so be it.

Future next gen S2000 owner > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 16:56

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If it means your stock trades for less, so be it.

That’ll be enough of that commie talk.

HammerheadFistpunch > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 17:01

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Hey, a good goal should hurt and he got pretty close to meeting it. Im more impressed they are selling that many electric only cars than anything else. I mean...Chevy has moved only 110,000 volts since 2010.

PatBateman > Future next gen S2000 owner 01/03/2017 at 17:02

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As Marx said,

“Publicly traded stocks should have reasonable valuations based off of all known information available to investors. Companies should never release incorrect information regarding their status to influence the market price of their own (or others’) stock.”

Stupid Marx.

PatBateman > HammerheadFistpunch 01/03/2017 at 17:09

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An aggressive, yet attainable goal is the best thing to have. Was 80-90k aggressive? YES. Was it attainable? If it was...

I think what makes me a bit annoyed about this constant “almost but not quite” goal vs results method that they’ve been doing the past few years is it makes me jaded when the company (read as: Musk) issues any other announcements. What am I to believe?

HammerheadFistpunch > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 17:11

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You are to believe he has the ability to deliver on 90% of some very amazing promises.

Brian, The Life of > For Sweden 01/03/2017 at 17:15

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Nice reach!

Brian, The Life of > EL_ULY 01/03/2017 at 17:15

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nermal > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 17:18

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How do the Model S and X compare to their respective categories on a global scale?

At least in the US, the Model S is the best selling “Large luxury sedan”, easily beating the Mercedes S / BMW 7 / etc.

nermal > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 17:19

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They have the opposite of the Apple approach, which is to always aim low with guidance so that they can beat it.

PatBateman > HammerheadFistpunch 01/03/2017 at 17:21

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Timelines for product launches, annual sales expectations, new product development, new support products (battery changing stations, hentai battery chargers)...

PatBateman > nermal 01/03/2017 at 17:22

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I dunno.

InFierority Complex > HammerheadFistpunch 01/03/2017 at 17:22

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Only going 90% of the way to Mars seems like a bad idea.

Cé hé sin > nermal 01/03/2017 at 17:24

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Depends. Teslas have been popular in Norway because of huge incentives for buyers of EVs but they’ve dropped off dramatically due to foreign exchange fluctuations.

HammerheadFistpunch > InFierority Complex 01/03/2017 at 17:34

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what about getting a colony about 90% of the proposed size?

HammerheadFistpunch > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 17:36

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Im just saying that he’s doing amazing things, even if they aren’t as timely and amazing as his promises.

PatBateman > HammerheadFistpunch 01/03/2017 at 17:44

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I responded to someone else about how there’s meat under that fluff, and he doesn’t need to put the fluff on the meat.

I love the cars. I’m not a fan of the company because of the fluff.

HammerheadFistpunch > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 17:45

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Its all a song and dance, he’s gotta keep the hype train rollin.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 18:38

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That’s totally close enough to say they met targets.

LongbowMkII > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 18:50

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I’ve got some Enron and MCI stock if you’re interested. Nothing misvalued here!

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 18:54

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... hentai battery chargers...? ?? ???

Dusty Ventures > nermal 01/03/2017 at 19:12

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Goodcarbadcar doesn’t have December sales numbers yet, but year-to-date through November had the S-Class at 17,309, the 7 series at 11,605, and the Audi A8 at 3,648. Were you to lump all Teslas together as a single model they would be somewhere around the 25th best selling car (of 163), slotting in around the C-Class, Passat, Camaro, 3 Series, Legacy, and Challenger.

Dusty Ventures > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 19:16

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Looking at the “mainstream” cars they outsold that’s not bad. Especially from a company that’s only been selling cars for a decade (and that’s if you count the rare-as-hell roadster. Real sales with the S only started five years ago).

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > nermal 01/03/2017 at 20:56

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2014: 104k worldwide S class

2015: 232k E class sedans - which as said below would be closer in standards

PatBateman > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 01/03/2017 at 21:25

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Yes.

PatBateman > Dusty Ventures 01/03/2017 at 21:48

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I agree completely. They just keep missing sales forecasts.

My bird IS the word > PatBateman 01/03/2017 at 23:17

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Not as big of a gap as I expected, though. huh.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > PatBateman 01/04/2017 at 00:11

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Tentaculastic!

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > PatBateman 01/07/2017 at 23:26

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I’m so tired of the tesla hype train.